EV-0041 — Cardiff County Court possession order (farmhouse and garden) — not yet held
| EV ID | EV-0041 |
|---|---|
| Title | Cardiff County Court possession order (farmhouse and garden) — not yet held |
| Date of document | 11 December 1962 |
| Type | court record |
| Evidence label | PRIMARY DOCUMENT — NOT PUBLISHED HERE |
| Repository / reference | Holder: not located; County court records |
| Status | PENDING — Original not yet obtained; Holder not located. Only county court records indicated. No method or cost of obtaining stated. |
| Provenance | No copy on the wiki; Order known only as recited. Source link given as Buckler family evidence repository (bucklerfamily.estate); No preview or upload found. |
| Wiki catalogue page | GHF-E130 |
| Claims that rely on this | 17 October 2026 Highlight Report Addendum — County Treasures & Cross-Institution, Cardiff County Court — Forensic Assessment, Claim: Repeated attempts to frame Mary (Nancy) Williams’s Parcel A occupation as permiss, Three Parts of Parcel A — Divergent Chronologies before 1987 Amalgamation, Three-part Parcel A: chronology, order scope and later title transfers, Western Ground Rents Ltd — Forensic Assessment |
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Proves: Not held, so nothing yet. Reported: as recited, not from a held copy: Judge Temple Morris QC ordered possession of farmhouse and garden, with mesne profits since 1955, against Frederick and Mary (Nancy) Buckler née Williams on WGR’s claim; Order not enforced before 1974.
Does not prove: Particulars of claim, any plan, and what WGR said it owned are unknown. Whether Mary pleaded ownership or why mesne profits ran from 1955 if that order excluded house and garden is unknown.
Interpretation: working hypotheses
Working hypotheses, kept apart from the record above. The record text on this page is unchanged. None of these is a finding: each line is labelled as inference, theory, a reading that cuts against the case, or a discarded theory, and names the evidence it rests on and what would confirm or refute it, so the reader can test it. Updated 25 Oct 2026 (v2: ingredients wording).
The 1962 → 1974 → 1983 sequence
THEORY · I-01Working hypothesis on the sequence, set out as dated steps for the reader to test. 11 Dec 1962: possession order in Cardiff County Court (EV-0041); the 12-year period from that order ran to 11 Dec 1974. In the 1974 County Court action she pleaded that the claim was barred (EV-0049). 17–19 Sep 1974: BP Pension Trust sought and obtained leave to enforce the 1962 order (EV-0080). 31 Oct 1974: letters permitting her to stay rent-free for life (EV-0050); the Court of Appeal later held that from then on her possession was by licence and no longer adverse (EV-0080). 30 Nov 1982 and 23 Feb 1983: first-registration applications for the fields and for the farmhouse (EV-0059, EV-0065). The hypothesis is that these steps were connected, each taking occupation the family treated as ownership closer to a registered title. No document read so far shows them planned together; W-04 and the discarded entries below set out readings that cut against it.
Rests on: EV-0041 (this page) · EV-0049 · EV-0050 · EV-0080 · EV-0059 · EV-0065
Would be confirmed by: The 1974 County Court file and leave application (HMCTS reply due 2 Nov 2026) and the 1983 application papers (HM Land Registry subject access request, due 28 Oct 2026) showing the steps were planned as one course of action.
Would be refuted by: Records showing each step was a separate routine act with its own cause (for example, the 1982 internal BP conveyance arising from a group restructuring unrelated to the farm).
Status: Open
INFERENCE · I-02The Court of Appeal records that BP Pension Trust's 1974 County Court action, in which she pleaded that BP's claim was barred, "has never been finally heard" (record). Working hypothesis: BP held no fresh order from 1974, so after 31 Oct 1974 its position rested on the licence letters alone; the 1982–83 registrations were the next route open to it.
Rests on: EV-0080 · EV-0049 · research log E134(b)
Would be confirmed by: The 1974 plaint and court book showing the action left undetermined (HMCTS request on the 1974 records).
Would be refuted by: A later order, judgment or discontinuance in the 1974 action.
Status: Open; the "never finally heard" words are confirmed in the judgment
THEORY · I-03On 17–19 Sep 1974 BP Pension Trust obtained leave to enforce the 1962 order "as successors in title to Western Ground Rents", on two days' notice, while its own action against her was part-heard. The WGR → BP Pension Trust conveyance is not on either HM Land Registry first-registration file. Working hypothesis: succession to the 1962 order was asserted in court without the conveyance being produced.
Rests on: EV-0041 (this page) · EV-0043 · EV-0080 · EV-0161 · ground R4
Would be confirmed by: The 1974 leave application and its supporting affidavit showing what proof of succession was put to the court.
Would be refuted by: The 31 Dec 1969 conveyance, or a certified copy, on the 1974 court file or the 1982–83 registration files (HM Land Registry relied on recitals and a 1971 abstract, E21).
Status: Open (ground R4, scores a1 b3 c1 d1)
Why 1983
DISCARDED THEORY · W-05DISCARDED: the theory that a 12-year deadline in Oct 1986 forced BP to register and act by then. Reason: the 12-year period that mattered ran from the possession order of 11 Dec 1962 and ended on 11 Dec 1974; BP admitted in the Court of Appeal that she was in adverse possession from 1965–67 until 31 Oct 1974; no record carries an Oct 1986 deadline. After her death the only live period was her son's own.
Rests on: EV-0080 · EV-0041 (this page) · research log E134(c)
Would be confirmed by: Would be revived only by a BP or solicitors' document referring to an Oct 1986 limitation date.
Would be refuted by: Already refuted on the judgment's own dates.
Status: Dropped (25 Oct 2026)
Cited on
75 pages link here.
- EV-0043 — Conveyance with plan, WGR to BP Pension Trust (recited as root of BP title)
- EV-0045 — Abstract of Title, 1971 (BP Pension Trust) — lodged with the 1982–83 first registrations, per HM Land Registry; contents not held
- EV-0049 — Mary (Nancy) Williams’s plea of ownership in BP Pension Trust’s 1974 county-court action
- EV-0050 — Licence letters from BP Pension Trust and BP Properties to Mrs Buckler (Mrs Williams)
- EV-0052 — Conveyance and plan, BP Pension Trust to BP Properties (farmhouse and garden)
- EV-0059 — Form A13: documents lodged at first registration, title WA231076 (Item 17)
- EV-0065 — HM Land Registry first-registration file WA240304 (farmhouse), Items 4, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11
- EV-0080 — Court of Appeal judgment: BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2
- EV-0607 — Twelve-year rainbow chart: dated pairs on one timeline, 1877–1987 (analysis, 25 Oct 2026) — Cedwyn Research Library
- EV-0608 — Twelve-year pairs stacked from a common start, with 26 numbered event notes (analysis, 25 Oct 2026) — Cedwyn Research Library
- EV-0609 — Parcel-by-parcel table: 21 takings of Cedwyn / Tŷ Mawr land, with the event before each and its gap (analysis, 25 Oct 2026) — Cedwyn Research Library
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- 1000 Cuts · a dated chronology of the Williams family at Great House Farm, 1870s–1988
- 1000 Cuts: a dated chronology of the Williams family at Great House Farm (1870s–1988) — Great House Farm Wiki
- 1938–39: Sale to WGR and the Revised Tenancy
- 1955 Parcel-A Loss Dossier — Woodland + VG41 Green
- BP Properties Ltd v Buckler
- Cedwyn Estate Working Theory — Repeated Parcel Capture, Parcel A and the Llandough–Leckwith Land Question
- Claim: Repeated attempts to frame Mary (Nancy) Williams’s Parcel A occupation as permissive
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- FC-001 — WA231076 Item 17: Form A13 Documents Lodged at First Registration
- FC-002 — WA240304 Items 4, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11: Farmhouse First-Registration File
- GHF-E130 — 11 December 1962 Cardiff County Court possession order (farmhouse and garden), with claim and plan
- GHF-E131 — 31 December 1969 WGR to BP Pension Trust conveyance (root of title), with plan
- GHF-E132 — 1971 abstract of title (BP Pension Trust)
- GHF-E135 — 3 July 1974 Mary (Nancy) Williams’s plea of ownership and the pleadings in BP Pension Trust’s county-court action
- GHF-E136 — 31 October 1974 licence letters (BP Pension Trust and BP Properties)
- GHF-E138 — 23 May 1975 BP Pension Trust to BP Properties conveyance and plan (WA240304 items 1, 12, 13)
- GHF-E141 — 31 July 1987 Court of Appeal judgment: BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2
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